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	When Germany's Basic Law (''Grundgesetz'') was drafted in 1949, the collective guilt appeared to be at work in the authors since the Basic Law was given a very strong human rights suite to offer protection against another Holocaust.		When Germany's Basic Law (''Grundgesetz'') was drafted in 1949, the collective guilt appeared to be at work in the authors since the Basic Law was given a very strong human rights suite to offer protection against another Holocaust.

	Germany has long given military aid to Israel in expiation of its felt collective guilt.<ref>{{REFweb		Germany has long given military aid to [[Israel]] in expiation of its felt collective guilt.<ref>{{REFweb
	\|url=https://jacobin.com/2020/11/postwar-west-germany-support-israel-whitewashing		\|url=https://jacobin.com/2020/11/postwar-west-germany-support-israel-whitewashing
	\|title=How Postwar West Germany Used Support for Israel to Whitewash Its Image		\|title=How Postwar West Germany Used Support for Israel to Whitewash Its Image
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	}}</ref> Israel announced in 2023, that it is to receive advanced new Drakon-class submarines from Germany.<ref>{{REFweb		}}</ref> [[Israel]] announced in 2023, that it is to receive advanced new Drakon-class submarines from Germany.<ref>{{REFweb
	\|url=https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/new-israeli-submarines-big-sail-seen-in-images		\|url=https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/new-israeli-submarines-big-sail-seen-in-images
	\|title=Latest Israeli Submarine’s Big Sail Seen In New Images		\|title=Latest Israeli Submarine’s Big Sail Seen In New Images
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	}}</ref> Today, it is Germany's national interest to fundamentally support Israel's security in the conflict with their neighbors, even though the German government still considers a two-state solution to be the preferable solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.<ref>{{REFweb		}}</ref> Today, it is Germany's national interest to fundamentally support [[Israel]]'s security in the conflict with their neighbors, even though the German government still considers a two-state solution to be the preferable solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.<ref>{{REFweb
	\|url=https://www.rnd.de/politik/israels-sicherheit-ist-deutsche-staatsraeson-was-heisst-das-eigentlich-6ZIZKBHGEZCO3J4GIOLIK4LWWA.html		\|url=https://www.rnd.de/politik/israels-sicherheit-ist-deutsche-staatsraeson-was-heisst-das-eigentlich-6ZIZKBHGEZCO3J4GIOLIK4LWWA.html
	\|title=Israels Sicherheit ist deutsche Staatsräson – was heißt das eigentlich?		\|title=Israels Sicherheit ist deutsche Staatsräson – was heißt das eigentlich?
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	}}</ref> and Jews in Israel,<ref>{{REFnews		}}</ref> and Jews in [[Israel]],<ref>{{REFnews
	\|title=Outraged German Jews slam court for prohibiting circumcision		\|title=Outraged German Jews slam court for prohibiting circumcision
	\|url=https://www.timesofisrael.com/german-jews-slam-court-for-ruling-prohibiting-circumcisions/		\|url=https://www.timesofisrael.com/german-jews-slam-court-for-ruling-prohibiting-circumcisions/
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	}}</ref> who sought to deny to boys the protections enacted by those guilt-feeling individuals who wanted to prevent a future recurrence of a Holocaust.		}}</ref> who sought to deny to boys the protections enacted by those guilt-feeling individuals who wanted to prevent a future recurrence of a Holocaust.

	With Germany paralyzed by its collective guilt, the Israeli Knesset, without resistance by Germany, chose to inject itself into German internal affairs and demanded that Germany pass a law to protect [[Brit ~~Milah\|circumcision~~]],<ref>{{REFnews		With Germany paralyzed by its collective guilt, the Israeli Knesset, without resistance by Germany, chose to inject itself into German internal affairs and demanded that Germany pass a law to protect [[Brit Milahcircumcision]],<ref>{{REFnews
	\|title='Germany must pass law to protect circumcision		\|title='Germany must pass law to protect circumcision
	\|url=https://www.jpost.com/National-News/Germany-must-pass-law-to-protect-circumcision		\|url=https://www.jpost.com/National-News/Germany-must-pass-law-to-protect-circumcision

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	'''{{FULLPAGENAME}}''' is a psychological phenomenon, first identified by [[Carl Jung]] (1945), in which the German people feel a collective guilt (''Kollektivschuld'') for the atrocities committed by their fellow countrymen.<ref name="jung1945">{{REFjournal		'''{{FULLPAGENAME}}''' is a psychological phenomenon, first identified by [[Carl Gustav Jung]] (1945), in which the German people feel a collective guilt (''Kollektivschuld'') for the atrocities committed by their fellow countrymen.<ref name="jung1945">{{REFjournal
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	}}</ref> Although German [[intactivists]] presented significant opposition to the passage of this law, they could not overcome the effects of ''collective guilt'', so the circumcision law received overwhelming support in the Bundestag. The 2012 [[Circumcision Debate]] and the strong influence of “German collective guilt” on voting behavior are described and evaluated in the book “[[Komikernation Deutschland]]” [Comedian Nation Germany] by [[Ulf Dunkel]].		}}</ref> Although German [[intactivists]] presented significant opposition to the passage of this law, they could not overcome the effects of ''collective guilt'', so the circumcision law received overwhelming support in the Bundestag.

			The 2012 [[Circumcision Debate]] and the strong influence of “German collective guilt” on voting behavior are described and evaluated in the book “[[Komikernation Deutschland]]” [Comedian Nation Germany] by [[Ulf Dunkel]].

	Passage of legislation to protect the [[physical integrity]] and [[human rights]] of boys apparently will require overcoming the collective guilt.		Passage of legislation to protect the [[physical integrity]] and [[human rights]] of boys apparently will require overcoming the collective guilt.

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	}}</ref> who sought to deny to boys the protections enacted by those guilt-feeling individuals who wanted to prevent a future recurrence of a Holocaust.		}}</ref> who sought to deny to boys the protections enacted by those guilt-feeling individuals who wanted to prevent a future recurrence of a Holocaust.

	~~The~~ Israeli Knesset, without resistance by Germany, chose to inject itself into German internal affairs and demanded that Germany pass a law to protect [[Brit Milah\|circumcision]],<ref>{{REFnews		With Germany paralyzed by its collective guilt, the Israeli Knesset, without resistance by Germany, chose to inject itself into German internal affairs and demanded that Germany pass a law to protect [[Brit Milah\|circumcision]],<ref>{{REFnews
	\|title='Germany must pass law to protect circumcision		\|title='Germany must pass law to protect circumcision
	\|url=https://www.jpost.com/National-News/Germany-must-pass-law-to-protect-circumcision		\|url=https://www.jpost.com/National-News/Germany-must-pass-law-to-protect-circumcision
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	}}</ref> who sought to deny to boys the protections enacted by those guilt-feeling individuals who wanted to prevent a future recurrence of a Holocaust.		}}</ref> who sought to deny to boys the protections enacted by those guilt-feeling individuals who wanted to prevent a future recurrence of a Holocaust.

	The Israeli Knesset chose to inject itself into German internal affairs and demanded that Germany pass a law to protect [[Brit Milah\|circumcision]],<ref>{{REFnews		The Israeli Knesset, without resistance by Germany, chose to inject itself into German internal affairs and demanded that Germany pass a law to protect [[Brit Milah\|circumcision]],<ref>{{REFnews
	\|title='Germany must pass law to protect circumcision		\|title='Germany must pass law to protect circumcision
	\|url=https://www.jpost.com/National-News/Germany-must-pass-law-to-protect-circumcision		\|url=https://www.jpost.com/National-News/Germany-must-pass-law-to-protect-circumcision

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	}}</ref> Although German [[intactivists]] presented significant opposition to the passage of this law, they could not overcome the effects of ''collective guilt'', so the circumcision law received overwhelming support in the Bundestag. The 2012 [[Circumcision Debate]] and the strong influence of “German collective guilt” on voting behavior are described and evaluated in the book “[[Komikernation Deutschland]]” [Comedian Nation Germany] by [[Ulf Dunkel]].		}}</ref> Although German [[intactivists]] presented significant opposition to the passage of this law, they could not overcome the effects of ''collective guilt'', so the circumcision law received overwhelming support in the Bundestag. The 2012 [[Circumcision Debate]] and the strong influence of “German collective guilt” on voting behavior are described and evaluated in the book “[[Komikernation Deutschland]]” [Comedian Nation Germany] by [[Ulf Dunkel]].

			Passage of legislation to protect the [[physical integrity]] and [[human rights]] of boys apparently will require overcoming the collective guilt.
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	}}</ref> Although German [[intactivists]] presented significant opposition to the passage of this law, they could not overcome the effects of ''collective guilt'', so ~~the support for~~ the circumcision law received overwhelming support in the Bundestag. The 2012 [[Circumcision Debate]] and the strong influence of “German collective guilt” on voting behavior are described and evaluated in the book “[[Komikernation Deutschland]]” [Comedian Nation Germany] by [[Ulf Dunkel]].		}}</ref> Although German [[intactivists]] presented significant opposition to the passage of this law, they could not overcome the effects of ''collective guilt'', so the circumcision law received overwhelming support in the Bundestag. The 2012 [[Circumcision Debate]] and the strong influence of “German collective guilt” on voting behavior are described and evaluated in the book “[[Komikernation Deutschland]]” [Comedian Nation Germany] by [[Ulf Dunkel]].

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	}}</ref> Although German [[intactivists]] presented significant opposition to the passage of this law, they could not overcome the effects of ''collective guilt'', so the support for the circumcision law received overwhelming support in the Bundestag.		}}</ref> Although German [[intactivists]] presented significant opposition to the passage of this law, they could not overcome the effects of ''collective guilt'', so the support for the circumcision law received overwhelming support in the Bundestag. The 2012 [[Circumcision Debate]] and the strong influence of “German collective guilt” on voting behavior are described and evaluated in the book “[[Komikernation Deutschland]]” [Comedian Nation Germany] by [[Ulf Dunkel]].

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	Most living Germans had not yet been born, so they cannot have any personal responsibility for the Holocaust, nevertheless the collective grief continues to be felt and it influences governmental behavior.		Most living Germans had not yet been born, so they cannot have any personal responsibility for the Holocaust, nevertheless the collective grief continues to be felt and it influences governmental behavior.

	When Germany's Basic Law (''Grundgesetz'') was drafted in 1949' the collective guilt appeared to be at work in the authors since the Basic Law was given a very strong human rights suite to offer protection against another Holocaust.		When Germany's Basic Law (''Grundgesetz'') was drafted in 1949, the collective guilt appeared to be at work in the authors since the Basic Law was given a very strong human rights suite to offer protection against another Holocaust.

	Germany has long given military aid to Israel in expiation of its felt collective guilt.<ref>{{REFweb		Germany has long given military aid to Israel in expiation of its felt collective guilt.<ref>{{REFweb
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	== The Cologne case and its consequences ==		== The Cologne case and its consequences ==
	The [[Cologne circumcision court judgment]] by the Cologne regional court ([https://www.lg-koeln.nrw.de/ Landgericht Köln])' in which the court rightfully decided that a [[circumcision]] of a four-year-old Muslim ~~boy~~ was a violation of the human rights provisions of the [https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_gg/englisch_gg.html Basic Law] (''Grundgesetz''), threatened to make all future non-therapeutic circumcisions of boys unlawful, unleashed overwhelming criticism by Muslims and Jews in Germany,<ref>{{REFnews		The [[Cologne circumcision court judgment]] by the Cologne regional court ([https://www.lg-koeln.nrw.de/ Landgericht Köln]) in which the court rightfully decided that a [[circumcision]] of a four-year-old boy of Muslim parents was a violation of the [[human rights]] provisions of the [https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_gg/englisch_gg.html Basic Law] (''Grundgesetz''), threatened to make all future non-therapeutic circumcisions of boys unlawful, unleashed overwhelming criticism by Muslims and Jews in Germany,<ref>{{REFnews
	\|title=Muslim and Jewish groups denounce German circumcision ruling		\|title=Muslim and Jewish groups denounce German circumcision ruling
	\|url=https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-18807040		\|url=https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-18807040
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	}}</ref> who sought to deny to boys the protections enacted by those guilt-feeling individuals who wanted to prevent a future recurrence of a Holocaust.		}}</ref> who sought to deny to boys the protections enacted by those guilt-feeling individuals who wanted to prevent a future recurrence of a Holocaust.

	The Israeli Knesset chose to inject itself into German internal affairs and demanded that Germany pass a law to protect [[Brit Milah\| circumcision]],<ref>{{REFnews		The Israeli Knesset chose to inject itself into German internal affairs and demanded that Germany pass a law to protect [[Brit Milah\|circumcision]],<ref>{{REFnews
	\|title='Germany must pass law to protect circumcision		\|title='Germany must pass law to protect circumcision
	\|url=https://www.jpost.com/National-News/Germany-must-pass-law-to-protect-circumcision		\|url=https://www.jpost.com/National-News/Germany-must-pass-law-to-protect-circumcision
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	}}</ref> Although it defies common sense, apparently the collective guilt felt by the members of the Bundestag caused the members to pass the [[German Circumcision Act]] on 12 December 2012 in apparent violation of the Basic Law.<ref>{{REFnews		}}</ref> Although it defies common sense, apparently the collective guilt felt by the members of the Bundestag caused the members to pass the [[German Circumcision Act]] on [[2012-12-12\|12 December 2012]] in apparent violation of the Basic Law.<ref>{{REFnews
	\|title=Germany passes law to protect circumcision after outcry		\|title=Germany passes law to protect circumcision after outcry
	\|url=https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-germany-circumcision-idUKBRE8BB1B220121212/		\|url=https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-germany-circumcision-idUKBRE8BB1B220121212/
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	}}</ref> <ref>{{REFnews		}}</ref><ref>{{REFnews
	\|title=Germany Passes Circumcision Law After Outcry		\|title=Germany Passes Circumcision Law After Outcry
	\|url=https://www.impactlab.com/2013/01/23/germany-passes-circumcision-law-after-outcry/		\|url=https://www.impactlab.com/2013/01/23/germany-passes-circumcision-law-after-outcry/
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	}}</ref> who sought to deny the protections enacted ~~in accordance with~~ those guilt-feeling individuals who wanted to prevent a future recurrence of a Holocaust.		}}</ref> who sought to deny to boys the protections enacted by those guilt-feeling individuals who wanted to prevent a future recurrence of a Holocaust.

	The Israeli Knesset chose to inject itself into German internal affairs and demanded that Germany pass a law to protect [[Brit Milah\| circumcision]],<ref>{{REFnews		The Israeli Knesset chose to inject itself into German internal affairs and demanded that Germany pass a law to protect [[Brit Milah\| circumcision]],<ref>{{REFnews

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	Most living Germans had not yet been born, ~~however~~ the collective grief continues to be felt and ~~influence~~ governmental behavior.		Most living Germans had not yet been born, so they cannot have any personal responsibility for the Holocaust, nevertheless the collective grief continues to be felt and it influences governmental behavior.

	When Germany's Basic Law (''Grundgesetz'') was drafted in 1949' the collective guilt appeared to be at work in the authors since the Basic Law was given a very strong human rights suite to offer protection against another Holocaust.		When Germany's Basic Law (''Grundgesetz'') was drafted in 1949' the collective guilt appeared to be at work in the authors since the Basic Law was given a very strong human rights suite to offer protection against another Holocaust.