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Motivation

“ Jake is still at it ... trying to convince people that his personal preference for the genitally mutilated penis should be embraced by everyone. He cites studies and argues points, but then you learn that his REAL interest is not in facts, but in his life-long fascination for genital cutting, and for the permanently exposed glans. If Jake gets off on these things, fine, but why try to convince other people to share his childhood fantasy? Might it be a lack of self-confidence and a craving for the approval and support from others? After all, it was a childhood fantasy that turned him on to genital cutting ... NOT any studies. (--Rood)


Case study

Understanding Jake requires understanding of several common and several bizarre psychological phenomenon. The common ones are projection and cognitive dissonance. The bizarre ones are Apotemnophilia, Body Integrity Identity Disorder (BIID), and Acrotomophilia.

Cognitive dissonance (free thought paradigm)

The person holding the belief must have committed himself to it; that is, for the sake of his belief, he must have taken some important action that is difficult to undo. In general, the more important such actions are, and the more difficult they are to undo, the greater is the individual's commitment to the belief. [1]

This phenomenon has been widely documented. When an important decision is made people evaluate there end result higher then they would have if they did not make the decision.

Using the free choice paradigm and an MRI, Sharot and colleagues have shown that after making a choice, activity in the striatum changes to reflect the new evaluation of the choice object, increasing if the object was chosen and decreasing if it was rejected. [2] Follow-up studies have largely confirmed these results. [3] [4] In other words people are actually programed to think this way.

In a different type of experiment conducted by Jack Brehm [5] , 225 female students rated a series of common appliances and were then allowed to choose one of two appliances to take home as a gift. A second round of ratings showed that the participants increased their ratings of the item they chose, and lowered their ratings of the rejected item. This can be explained in terms of cognitive dissonance. When making a difficult decision, there are always aspects of the rejected choice that one finds appealing and these features are dissonant with choosing something else.

Dissonance is aroused whenever individuals voluntarily engage in an unpleasant activity to achieve some desired goal. Dissonance can be reduced by exaggerating the desirability of the goal. Aronson & Mills[6] had individuals undergo a severe or mild "initiation" in order to become a member of a group. In the severe-initiation condition, the individuals engaged in an embarrassing activity. The group turned out to be very dull and boring. The individuals in the severe-initiation condition evaluated the group as more interesting than the individuals in the mild-initiation condition.

“ Similarly the authors of the “ikea effect” state:
Our research shows that labor enhances affection for its results. When people construct products themselves, from bookshelves to Build-a-Bears, they come to overvalue their (often poorly made) creations.We call this phenomenon the IKEA effect, in honor of the wildly successful Swedish manufacturer whose products typically arrive with some assembly required.[7]

Cognitive dissonance as it applies to Jake

In the case of Jake. Jake spent many years wishing he had been circumcised he did tons of research on circumcision, and then he purchased and received a circumcision, and then there was the healing process. All these elaborate efforts and rituals add to the invested interest which must be defended. The more time spent on the product you are building, the research spent on an action you are about to perform, the more time in invest in such a matter, the more irreversible the decision, the more you over inflate the value of your end choice. And consequently the more you become predisposed to stronger feelings of cognitive dissonance. People like Jake will most likely experience permanent and strong feelings of cognitive dissonance. Jake is an extreme in all these categories.

“ After getting circumcised Jake is quoted:
But finally I has what I wanted and now I love my dick[8]
“ In another post Jake said
I find it difficult to believe that I would regret something that I've regretted *not* having done since age 5! (Yahoo Circlist. Message #26333, 2003 July 30th)

Here is Jakes free choice paradigm right here. He wanted to be circumcised and he had already made up his decision about the results before experiencing them. This is the very definition of the free thought paradigm. He had spent a life time embellishing his goal of being circumcised.

Dissonance is aroused when people are confronted with information that is inconsistent with their beliefs. If the dissonance is not reduced by changing one's belief, the dissonance can result in misperception or rejection or refutation of the information, seeking support from others who share the beliefs, and attempting to persuade others to restore consonance. [9]

“ In another post Jake said:
I'm in favour of informing the public, parents especially (Yahoo RoundHeadsUK. Message #2, 2006 Mar 10th)

Hence his conquest to restore consonance begins.

The individual believer must have social support. It is unlikely that one isolated believer could withstand the kind of disconfirming evidence that has been specified. If, however, the believer is a member of a group of convinced persons who can support one another, the belief may be maintained and the believers may attempt to proselyte or persuade nonmembers that the belief is correct. [10]

“ In another post Jake said:
I will never forget the feeling of not being alone, being among like-minded people. Circlist for me has always been a place to have intelligent, thoughtful discussion about circumcision, and a place to talk to like-minded individuals (Google Circlist. Message #**, 2005 Ma7 24th 12:06pm)

Circlist is a pro circumcision web site, here Jake has found the social support necessary to grow his ideas.

Projection

Psychological projection or projection bias is a psychological defense mechanism where a person unconsciously denies his or her own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, such as to other people. Thus, projection involves imagining or projecting the belief that others have those feelings. [11]

Projection as it applies to Jake

His personal fantasy is to have been circumcised as an infant.

“ Jake says:
I think that failing to circumcise a boy at infant actually denies him a choice. Because it is so difficult to get circumcised as an adult[12]

Which doesn't make much sense since he got to chose the type of cut he wanted.

“ Jake says:
The scar line is about half way down my shaft when flaccid (Yahoo Circlist. Message #26279, 2003 July 27th 4:00am)

He projects this preference on other people by promoting circumcision.

“ In another post Jake said:
I'm in favour of informing the public, parents especially... I would personally choose to circumcise a son (and hopefully I will one day adopt) (Yahoo RoundHeadsUK. Message #2, 2006 Mar 10th)

Adopting because Jake is a homosexual.

Here he is showing his projection of his his own preference for circumcision on to others.

Jake's rationalizations of his projections

He also uses flawed Internet surveys and study's to rationalize his projection. [13] [14] [15] Some of these anonymous internet surveys and study's conclude that intact men desired circumcision and that circumcised men where content. However, only one study he uses was actually published in a peer reviewed journal, and it found that people where incorrect about their own circumcision status at an alarming rate. [16] This makes the results of self reporting scrupulous. Furthermore Intact men are typically made to feel outcast in a majority circumcised U.S. Since humans value conformity so much [17] this effect, if it exists, will exist no longer because the majority of children born today in the U.S. are left intact. [18] Also, younger people tend to value conformity more then adults, so an internet surveys geared toward younger people will yield results infavor of conformity.

Therefore It is irrational to project a preference for circumcision onto infant children based on such information.

Jake goes further to supply study's of adult men who underwent circumcision, some study participants reported an improvement, [19] Another study was from Africa where sexual practices have absolutely no resemblance of sexual practices in the U.S. [20] In any event it is flawed to use such study's to rationalize a projection because as i discussed above in the section on cognitive dissonance, human animals are programed to over state the value of their end decision while simultaneously rationalizing the effort it took to get irreversibly circumcised as an adult.

Jake goes on to use another study of self assessment in determining the sensitivity of the foreskin. [21] But as discussed earlier people are not even able to determine their own circumcision status much less the five components of the foreskin and their sensitivity.

In any event Jake has combed the internet for what ever information, flawed or not, he required in order to rationalize his projections.

Apotemnophilia

Jake may also suffer from these disorders:

Apotemnophilia is a neurological disorder in which otherwise sane and rational individuals express a strong and specific desire for the amputation of a healthy limb or limbs. [22] There is often a sexual interest in becoming an amputee. [23]

One of his piers said “Some of us who do get erotic and sexual gratification out of not only the finished product, but also the procedure itself.” The “finished product” is the sexual interest in becoming an amputee and the “procedure it self” is akin to the Ikea effect that was previously discussed.

Body Integrity Identity Disorder (BIID)

Body Integrity Identity Disorder (BIID), formerly known as Amputee Identity Disorder, is a neurological and psychological disorder that makes sufferers feel they would be happier living as an amputee. It is typically accompanied by the desire to amputate one or more healthy limbs to achieve that end. [24]

Acrotomophilia

Acrotomophilia , refers to a paraphilia in which an individual expresses strong sexual interest in amputees. [25]

Condemned by his own tongue?

If I am correct, Jake always tries to kick people off of WikiPedia he doesn't like, or change back edits he doesn't like by accusing a user of having a conflict of interest, of not having a neutral point of view etc. etc. If I'm reading the rules at WikiPedia correctly, he is guilty of this very same thing. (Editing all those pages related to circumcision, his membership with Ci rc li st and Gi lg al, the fact that he publishes with Morris, other pro-circs etc. etc...)

Furthemore, it says here that you can't be promoting yourself, and you can't have a close connection to the subject being talked about. Both he and his mentor are infamous for quoting themselves wherever. And, it looks like Jake likes to promote his own website "ci rc s." Uh, this guy has a conflict of interest -special particular interest- if I ever saw one.Orly21 02:08, 13 June 2011 (CDT)

Sightings

Possible content

Cancer paper

Apparently Jake has been included in a paper about circumcision and cancer with Brian Morris and a few other usual suspects. It must be known that Jake is a complete non-sequitur as he is a computer programmer and has absolutely no credentials in any related field. He is not a peer. Jake should not be included, and this joke of a paper needs to go in the shredder where it belongs.Orly21 23:12, 9 March 2011 (CST)

Here is the origin of Jake's interest in circumcision to prevent prostate cancer. Don't you just find it cute when he plays "scientist" (hahaha!). http://circleaks.org/images/8/81/Waskett_2006-03-24.pdf
--Thedirt 01:52, 22 May 2011 (CDT)

Denialism Paper

Add information about the "denialism" paper he did with Morris.--Thedirt 18:28, 9 May 2011 (CDT)

Group

Mention that Jake started the group "RoundHeadsUK".--Thedirt 05:25, 13 April 2011 (CDT)

Dates are messed up

Adequacy Forum Post

2001 Dec 6th

 

Need to correct the problem before we can use this.--Mazzera 21:04, 10 May 2011 (CDT)

I don't understand. This is a screen capture. What's wrong with it exactly?--Thedirt 21:51, 18 May 2011 (CDT)
He got circumcised in July 2003, not by 2001: http://circleaks.org/index.php?title=Jake_H._Waskett#2003_July_27th Jake even questioned this, I forget where I saw it though. --Mazzera 19:17, 20 May 2011 (CDT)
Do you mean that you think this might be a fake? If so, I doubt anyone was impersonating Jake online as a circumsexual in 2001. I suspect this is Jake (in fact, there is no doubt in my mind), and that he was lying. Maybe he wanted to get cut so bad he made up a story early and claimed he was already cut. Who knows for sure, but this is evidence of Jake's questionable and ever changing testimony. Unless you object, I'm going to put this back. I'll wait 24 hours.--Thedirt 20:22, 20 May 2011 (CDT)
No, I don't necessarily think Jake was lying. My explanation (the simplest one I can think of) is that because this was on an archived forum site, it's possible that the server archived the thread and re-assigned the dates. Jake has used this post to discredit Circleaks, and I don't want to give him anything to grasp at. Besides, I suspect he's repeated the statements in this post more than once.--Mazzera 17:37, 21 May 2011 (CDT)
If Jake has used this to discredit CircLeaks, he's not doing himself any favors. I put it back, but please feel free to edit the notes (etc) to make sure we're representing only the facts (evidence) here.--Thedirt 21:57, 21 May 2011 (CDT)

Jakew and circumcision (the Wikipedia problem)

Here is a discussion amongst Wikipedia editors and admins, regarding Jake's behavior. Avi and Jayjg (both extremely pro-circumcision editors) come to his defense, as usual.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive717#Jakew_and_circumcision

Waskett has a blog

Letter: In response to Jake Waskett

Friend of Vernon Quaintance

Outside of the email in the article, Jake has directly admitted to being good friends (if I'm not mistaken) with Vernon Quaintance here. The link(s) seem(s) to be broken at the moment, but if it will work in the future (or an archive can be found) this is important evidence, especially now that Quaintance has been arrested for child pornography, and we know that Jake is in the same circumfetish rings as Quaintance. You can find more archives by Googling "circumcision jake quaintance" (this warrants some time spent).--Moredirt 06:19, 22 April 2012 (CDT)

Retirement

I don't buy that Jake has "retired" for a second. The filth went undercover. His name is still appearing on papers. That is, unless his buddy Morris is tagging him on without his knowing... Do not doubt for a second that this clown is still around and working hard to push the pro-mutilation agenda. Quitting is simply not in this freak's nature. Be on the lookout.Orly21 04:56, 29 October 2012 (CDT)

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  2. ↑ Van Veen, V., Krug, M.K., Schooler, J.W., & Carter, C.S. (2009). Neural activity predicts attitude change in cognitive dissonance. Nature Neuroscience, 12(11), 1469–1474.
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  6. ↑ Aronson & Mills Aronson, E. & Mills, J. (1956). The effect of severity of initiation on liking for a group. Journal of (7)Abnormal and Social Psychology, 59, 177–181.
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  24. ↑ Large MM (October 2007). "Body identity disorder". Psychol Med 37 (10): 1513; author reply 1513–4.
  25. ↑ Solvang, P. (2007). The amputee body desired: Beauty destabilized? Disability re-valued? Sex and Disability, 25, 51–64.
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