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'''{{FULLPAGENAME}}''' is a psychological phenomenon, first identified by [[Carl Jung]] (1945), in which the German people feel a collective guilt (''Kollektivschuld'') for the atrocities committed by their fellow countrymen.<ref name="jung1945">{{REFjournal

'''{{FULLPAGENAME}}''' is a psychological phenomenon, first identified by [[Carl Gustav Jung]] (1945), in which the German people feel a collective guilt (''Kollektivschuld'') for the atrocities committed by their fellow countrymen.<ref name="jung1945">{{REFjournal

|last=Jung

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|author-link=Carl Jung

|author-link=Carl Gustav Jung

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|title=Nach der Katastrophe

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When Germany's Basic Law (''Grundgesetz'') was drafted in 1949, the collective guilt appeared to be at work in the authors since the Basic Law was given a very strong human rights suite to offer protection against another Holocaust.

Germany has long given military aid to Israel in expiation of its felt collective guilt.<ref>{{REFweb

Germany has long given military aid to [[Israel]] in expiation of its felt collective guilt.<ref>{{REFweb

|url=https://jacobin.com/2020/11/postwar-west-germany-support-israel-whitewashing

|title=How Postwar West Germany Used Support for Israel to Whitewash Its Image

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|accessdate=2023-12-11

}}</ref> Israel announced in 2023, that it is to receive advanced new Drakon-class submarines from Germany.<ref>{{REFweb

}}</ref> [[Israel]] announced in 2023, that it is to receive advanced new Drakon-class submarines from Germany.<ref>{{REFweb

|url=https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/new-israeli-submarines-big-sail-seen-in-images

|title=Latest Israeli Submarine’s Big Sail Seen In New Images

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|date=2023-08-03

|accessdate=2023-12-11

}}</ref> Today, it is Germany's national interest to fundamentally support Israel's security in the conflict with their neighbors, even though the German government still considers a two-state solution to be the preferable solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.<ref>{{REFweb

}}</ref> Today, it is Germany's national interest to fundamentally support [[Israel]]'s security in the conflict with their neighbors, even though the German government still considers a two-state solution to be the preferable solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.<ref>{{REFweb

|url=https://www.rnd.de/politik/israels-sicherheit-ist-deutsche-staatsraeson-was-heisst-das-eigentlich-6ZIZKBHGEZCO3J4GIOLIK4LWWA.html

|title=Israels Sicherheit ist deutsche Staatsräson – was heißt das eigentlich?

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}}</ref> and Jews in Israel,<ref>{{REFnews

}}</ref> and Jews in [[Israel]],<ref>{{REFnews

|title=Outraged German Jews slam court for prohibiting circumcision

|url=https://www.timesofisrael.com/german-jews-slam-court-for-ruling-prohibiting-circumcisions/

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}}</ref> who sought to deny to boys the protections enacted by those guilt-feeling individuals who wanted to prevent a future recurrence of a Holocaust.

~~The~~ Israeli Knesset chose to inject itself into German internal affairs and demanded that Germany pass a law to protect [[Brit ~~Milah|circumcision~~]],<ref>{{REFnews

With Germany paralyzed by its collective guilt, the Israeli Knesset, without resistance by Germany, chose to inject itself into German internal affairs and demanded that Germany pass a law to protect [[Brit Milahcircumcision]],<ref>{{REFnews

|title='Germany must pass law to protect circumcision

|url=https://www.jpost.com/National-News/Germany-must-pass-law-to-protect-circumcision

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}}</ref> Although German [[intactivists]] presented significant opposition to the passage of this law, they could not overcome the effects of ''collective guilt'', so ~~the support for~~ the circumcision law received overwhelming support in the Bundestag.

}}</ref> Although German [[intactivists]] presented significant opposition to the passage of this law, they could not overcome the effects of ''collective guilt'', so the circumcision law received overwhelming support in the Bundestag.

The 2012 [[Circumcision Debate]] and the strong influence of “German collective guilt” on voting behavior are described and evaluated in the book “[[Komikernation Deutschland]]” [Comedian Nation Germany] by [[Ulf Dunkel]].

Passage of legislation to protect the [[physical integrity]] and [[human rights]] of boys apparently will require overcoming the collective guilt.

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-'''{{FULLPAGENAME}}''' is a psychological phenomenon, first identified by [[Carl Jung]] (1945), in which the German people feel a collective guilt (''Kollektivschuld'') for the atrocities committed by their fellow countrymen.<ref name="jung1945">{{REFjournal
+'''{{FULLPAGENAME}}''' is a psychological phenomenon, first identified by [[Carl Gustav Jung]] (1945), in which the German people feel a collective guilt (''Kollektivschuld'') for the atrocities committed by their fellow countrymen.<ref name="jung1945">{{REFjournal
   |last=Jung
   |init=CG
-  |author-link=Carl Jung
+  |author-link=Carl Gustav Jung
   |url=
   |title=Nach der Katastrophe
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 When Germany's Basic Law (''Grundgesetz'') was drafted in 1949, the collective guilt appeared to be at work in the authors since the Basic Law was given a very strong human rights suite to offer protection against another Holocaust.
-Germany has long given military aid to Israel in expiation of its felt collective guilt.<ref>{{REFweb
+Germany has long given military aid to [[Israel]] in expiation of its felt collective guilt.<ref>{{REFweb
   |url=https://jacobin.com/2020/11/postwar-west-germany-support-israel-whitewashing
   |title=How Postwar West Germany Used Support for Israel to Whitewash Its Image
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   |date=2020-11-24
   |accessdate=2023-12-11
-}}</ref> Israel announced in 2023, that it is to receive advanced new Drakon-class submarines from Germany.<ref>{{REFweb
+}}</ref> [[Israel]] announced in 2023, that it is to receive advanced new Drakon-class submarines from Germany.<ref>{{REFweb
   |url=https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/new-israeli-submarines-big-sail-seen-in-images
   |title=Latest Israeli Submarine’s Big Sail Seen In New Images
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   |date=2023-08-03
   |accessdate=2023-12-11
-}}</ref> Today, it is Germany's national interest to fundamentally support Israel's security in the conflict with their neighbors, even though the German government still considers a two-state solution to be the preferable solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.<ref>{{REFweb
+}}</ref> Today, it is Germany's national interest to fundamentally support [[Israel]]'s security in the conflict with their neighbors, even though the German government still considers a two-state solution to be the preferable solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.<ref>{{REFweb
   |url=https://www.rnd.de/politik/israels-sicherheit-ist-deutsche-staatsraeson-was-heisst-das-eigentlich-6ZIZKBHGEZCO3J4GIOLIK4LWWA.html
   |title=Israels Sicherheit ist deutsche Staatsräson – was heißt das eigentlich?
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   |accessdate=2023-12-11
   |quote=
-}}</ref> and Jews in Israel,<ref>{{REFnews
+}}</ref> and Jews in [[Israel]],<ref>{{REFnews
   |title=Outraged German Jews slam court for prohibiting circumcision
   |url=https://www.timesofisrael.com/german-jews-slam-court-for-ruling-prohibiting-circumcisions/
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 }}</ref> who sought to deny to boys the protections enacted by those guilt-feeling individuals who wanted to prevent a future recurrence of a Holocaust.
-The Israeli Knesset chose to inject itself into German internal affairs and demanded that Germany pass a law to protect [[Brit Milah|circumcision]],<ref>{{REFnews
+With Germany paralyzed by its collective guilt, the Israeli Knesset, without resistance by Germany, chose to inject itself into German internal affairs and demanded that Germany pass a law to protect [[Brit Milahcircumcision]],<ref>{{REFnews
   |title='Germany must pass law to protect circumcision
   |url=https://www.jpost.com/National-News/Germany-must-pass-law-to-protect-circumcision
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   |website=
   |date=2012-06-27
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   |accessdate=2023-12-11
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-}}</ref> Although German [[intactivists]] presented significant opposition to the passage of this law, they could not overcome the effects of ''collective guilt'', so the support for the circumcision law received overwhelming support in the Bundestag.
+}}</ref> Although German [[intactivists]] presented significant opposition to the passage of this law, they could not overcome the effects of ''collective guilt'', so the circumcision law received overwhelming support in the Bundestag.
+The 2012 [[Circumcision Debate]] and the strong influence of “German collective guilt” on voting behavior are described and evaluated in the book “[[Komikernation Deutschland]]” [Comedian Nation Germany] by [[Ulf Dunkel]].
+Passage of legislation to protect the [[physical integrity]] and [[human rights]] of boys apparently will require overcoming the collective guilt.
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