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* '''Circumcision supposedly protects against STDs.'''
 
* '''Circumcision supposedly protects against STDs.'''
 
*: People refer over and over again to a study<ref>http://www.who.int/hiv/topics/malecircumcision/en/</ref> of the [[WHO]] which should have determined that [[circumcision]] should have a 60% protection against HIV/AIDS. This study is sharply criticized worldwide by experts.
 
*: People refer over and over again to a study<ref>http://www.who.int/hiv/topics/malecircumcision/en/</ref> of the [[WHO]] which should have determined that [[circumcision]] should have a 60% protection against HIV/AIDS. This study is sharply criticized worldwide by experts.
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*: A study by Bertrant Auvert is used as a source, which supposedly wants to found an HIV infection risk reduced by up to 60%.
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*: There are several comments: Firstly, the study design was already distroyed with the start of the trial. The circumcised control group was circumcised directly at the beginning of the study. This means that the intact control group had a 'contagion lead' of six weeks which were applied until the circumcision wounds have healed. Secondly, the entire study was carried out in the region with the highest HIV rate around the world. Thus the results are not that meaningfull as if the study would have been carried out in areas with 'normal' infection rates. Orange Farm, the village in South Africa, is well-known for the high rate of HIV. A third criticism is that the study of Auvert comes up with mathematical legerdemain and was also canceled after two years, when the figures threatened to align themselves. Unfortunately, this study is also the basis on which the [[WHO]] performs worth millions [[circumcision]] campaigns with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
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* '''Circumcision supposedly protects against urinary tract infections (HTI).'''
 
* '''Circumcision supposedly protects against urinary tract infections (HTI).'''
* '''Circumcision supposedly protects against penis cancer.'''
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*: Urinary tract infections are much more common in women than in men, which is due to the shorter urethra. It is entirely sufficient to treat a urinary tract infection with antibiotics.
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* '''Circumcision supposedly protects against penile cancer.'''
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*: Penile cancer is one of the rarest types of cancer worldwide. In addition, the cancer is one of advanced age. Men have a higher risk of developing breast cancer than penile cancer. Cancer of the [[penis]] is also a cancer of the [[foreskin]] '''''and'''' the [[Glans penis|glans]] and quite well treatable. This cancer is no reason to force [[circumcision]] on boys.
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* '''Circumcision supposedly protects against cervical cancer / HPV.'''
 
* '''Circumcision supposedly protects against cervical cancer / HPV.'''
*: The aforementioned diseases were mentioned during the modern history of [[circumcision]] to somehow justify non-medical circumcision medically. For prevention of the diseases mentioned however, other non-destructive measures (such as hygiene, condoms, etc.) are more appropriate. America with the highest circumcision rate of all western countries has also still the highest HIV / AIDS rate in all Western countries.
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*: The aforementioned diseases were mentioned during the modern history of [[circumcision]] to somehow justify non-medical circumcision medically. For prevention of the diseases mentioned however, other non-destructive measures (such as hygiene, condoms, etc.) are more appropriate. America with the highest circumcision rate of all western countries has also still the highest HIV / AIDS rate in all Western countries. There are now also well-tolerated vaccinations against the infection with HPV, such as Gardasil.
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* '''Circumcision supposedly protects against [[phimosis]].'''
 
* '''Circumcision supposedly protects against [[phimosis]].'''
*: There are actually medically indicated cases of [[phimosis]]. But more than 90% of them can be corrected without surgery.
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*: There are actually medically indicated cases of [[phimosis]]. But more than 90% of them can be corrected without surgery. One must clearly distinguish between the physiological ''(natural)'' and the pathological [[phimosis]]. Boys usually have a so-called physiological [[phimosis]]: the [[foreskin]] is bonded to the [[Glans penis|penis]] and cannot be retracted. Only by changes in the hormonal balance of adolescent boys, the bonded membrane dissolves slowly and allows to retract the [[foreskin]]. The average age here is 10.4 years. Each [[phimosis]] diagnosis that is made in an otherwise healthy boy before the end of puberty that can urinate without a problem, is a misdiagnosis. Especially during the enrollment examination, [[phimosis]] is often diagnosed because some doctors still mistakenly believe that on the enrollment the [[foreskin]] must be fully retractable. As a parent, please ignore this diagnosis. If the child has no problems, you have to make him any problems.
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*: The [[BVKJ|Professional Association of Paediatricians]] in Germany has now canceled the [[phimosis]] investigations in the examination books for boys in early childhood.
  
 
== Hygienical Arguments ==
 
== Hygienical Arguments ==

Revision as of 09:30, 22 April 2015

Pro circumcision activists have many arguments why the medically not indicated circumcision should make sense. This page tries to offer an almost complete list and a ranking of the pro arcuments. All arguments listed hereafter can be and already have been refuted, the religious arguments included.

Religious Arguments

Jewish Religion

  • "Circumcision is required by God."
    This argument is brought by the Jewish communities, with respect to a Bible text where God ordered the Israelic forefather Abraham to have all male descendants circumcised. But in fact it is not a religion-giving, but a religion-confirming ritual act that can therefore be postponed to a later date without any problem.
  • "Only the circumcision makes a boy a real Jew."
    Refutation: In the Jewish-religious culture, a boy becomes a Jew automatically when he is born by a Jewish mother.

Islamic Religion

  • "Circumcision has been recommended by the Prophet Mohammed."
    This argument is brought by the Muslim communities, with respect to a Hadith of one fellow of the prophet where the male circumcision is required. The Quran itself neither mentions nor requires the circumcision. Although Ibrahim (Abraham) himself is mentioned in the Quran at least 67 times, his circumcision is not mentioned there. Instead, many places in the Quran describe that Allah created man "in great shape" [1], "completed" [2] and "complete" [3], and "made your bodies perfectly" [4]. "No mistake you can see in the Creation of the Most Gracious." [5] The circumcision itself would have to be an insult for Allah.
    The recommendation for circumcision goes back to Abū Huraira, who reported that the Prophet should have said: "To fitrah (at creation of man) five things are required: The circumcision, the shaving of pubic hair, the short-cutting of the mustache, cuttin the (finger and foot) nails, and plucking the armpit hairs." [6]
    Since this is five body treatments that have to do in the broadest sense with hygiene, one can understand even in temporal and spatial context of Islam in the 7th century AD, that circumcision was mentioned, too. But nowadays, circumcision is unnecessary for hygienic reasons. Hygiene can be no religious argument, too.

Trivializing arguments

  • "I've never heard anyone complain about being circumcised."
    Chances are that a man does not talk about his sexual or other (genital) issues to others at all. There are many personal stories of men who did and do complain. There is an organization named Men Do Complain, there are books with case histories of many men who do complain. But it is not the question if men do complain. The question is: Is circumcision of children a an illegel intervention in the physical integrity? That is continuously asserted by lawyers. The question for victims does also not arise here, because circumcision of children basically violates the fundamental rights of the child.
  • "Circumcision is similar to removing a patch."
    All published circumcision videos show that those who are circumcised without adequate anaesthetic treatment (anaesthesia or anaesthetic), suffer immense pain. Infants fall regularly in shock as a reaction to the pain, when being circumcised without effective anaestesia. This shock is often misinterpreted and the parents believe that their baby would have simply slept through.
  • "Babies feel no pain yet, therefore should be circumcised at an early stage."
    This assertion is completely obsolete and refuted in many studies. The discussion is also quite schizophrenic. It is fiercely debated whether embryos that are to be expelled, should be stunned before. But you can easily cut off a body part without anesthesia on born babies because they do not feel pain? The reserch situation is however quite differently here: boys who were circumcised as infants, show even stronger reactions to pain (e.g. vaccination)) as intact ones.[7][8]
  • "Circumcisionis comparable with ear piercing or other piercings."
    Apart from the fact that earlobes and piercings are bodily injury, usually any sensitive tissue or even functional body parts is removed when doing earlobes and piercings. Also earlobes and piercing holes can grow again. Therefore, this comparison is completely untenable. Children are no dolls that you can surgically change at will. The body belongs to the child alone, that alone should decide when and where permanent changes in their body are made. As long as the child is too young to make the appropriate statements, you should forgo any body modification.
  • "Circumcision is like cutting fingernails or hair."
    Fingernails and hair grow by themselves. This trivializing comparison of foreskin amputation with normal personal hygiene is untenable.


  • "He should look like his father; you can't tell the child why he looks different there."
    Probably one of the worst arguments, because where is the limit? So you can't also explain to the child why the father is sitting in a wheelchair and the child doesn't, so you have to cut his spinal cord? Maybe the father is blind or has scars on his face - does the child have to compensate the father, too? Of course not. The argument serves to protect the father's peace of mind, but not the child that must be protected against 'conflicts'.


  • "I like my penises circumcised."
    Often voiced by mothers who could not imagine who an intact penis looks like or works. The argument is not only dangerously close to a sexual assault, but has already exceeded this limit. Any man who would express himself this way about the genitals of his daughter, would have major problems with the DCFS and would expose himself to criminal prosecution.
  • "You can't teach a boy to wash there. Thus he will be circumcised."
    Parental education failure should not be borne on the backs of the boys. If parents do not feel able to educate their son to proper personal hygiene, they should take help from official aid agencies rather than to impose the son on an operation that has no other justification than parental laziness.

Medical Prophylactical Arguments

  • Circumcision supposedly protects against HIV/AIDS.
  • Circumcision supposedly protects against STDs.
    People refer over and over again to a study[9] of the WHO which should have determined that circumcision should have a 60% protection against HIV/AIDS. This study is sharply criticized worldwide by experts.
    A study by Bertrant Auvert is used as a source, which supposedly wants to found an HIV infection risk reduced by up to 60%.
    There are several comments: Firstly, the study design was already distroyed with the start of the trial. The circumcised control group was circumcised directly at the beginning of the study. This means that the intact control group had a 'contagion lead' of six weeks which were applied until the circumcision wounds have healed. Secondly, the entire study was carried out in the region with the highest HIV rate around the world. Thus the results are not that meaningfull as if the study would have been carried out in areas with 'normal' infection rates. Orange Farm, the village in South Africa, is well-known for the high rate of HIV. A third criticism is that the study of Auvert comes up with mathematical legerdemain and was also canceled after two years, when the figures threatened to align themselves. Unfortunately, this study is also the basis on which the WHO performs worth millions circumcision campaigns with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
  • Circumcision supposedly protects against urinary tract infections (HTI).
    Urinary tract infections are much more common in women than in men, which is due to the shorter urethra. It is entirely sufficient to treat a urinary tract infection with antibiotics.
  • Circumcision supposedly protects against penile cancer.
    Penile cancer is one of the rarest types of cancer worldwide. In addition, the cancer is one of advanced age. Men have a higher risk of developing breast cancer than penile cancer. Cancer of the penis is also a cancer of the foreskin and' the glans and quite well treatable. This cancer is no reason to force circumcision on boys.
  • Circumcision supposedly protects against cervical cancer / HPV.
    The aforementioned diseases were mentioned during the modern history of circumcision to somehow justify non-medical circumcision medically. For prevention of the diseases mentioned however, other non-destructive measures (such as hygiene, condoms, etc.) are more appropriate. America with the highest circumcision rate of all western countries has also still the highest HIV / AIDS rate in all Western countries. There are now also well-tolerated vaccinations against the infection with HPV, such as Gardasil.
  • Circumcision supposedly protects against phimosis.
    There are actually medically indicated cases of phimosis. But more than 90% of them can be corrected without surgery. One must clearly distinguish between the physiological (natural) and the pathological phimosis. Boys usually have a so-called physiological phimosis: the foreskin is bonded to the penis and cannot be retracted. Only by changes in the hormonal balance of adolescent boys, the bonded membrane dissolves slowly and allows to retract the foreskin. The average age here is 10.4 years. Each phimosis diagnosis that is made in an otherwise healthy boy before the end of puberty that can urinate without a problem, is a misdiagnosis. Especially during the enrollment examination, phimosis is often diagnosed because some doctors still mistakenly believe that on the enrollment the foreskin must be fully retractable. As a parent, please ignore this diagnosis. If the child has no problems, you have to make him any problems.
    The Professional Association of Paediatricians in Germany has now canceled the phimosis investigations in the examination books for boys in early childhood.

Hygienical Arguments

  • "A circumcised penis can be cleaned much easier."
    The cleaning of an intact or circumcised penis is equal and is not hampered by an intact foreskin.
  • "Uncircumcised penisses always smell."
    This argument assumes a flat rate poor hygiene for all intact boys and men and thus constitutes an indirect insult all intact boys and men.

Esthetical Arguments

  • "A circumcised penis looks nicer."
    That is not a valid measure of circumcision on children. With the same aesthetic argument, for example, Chinese girls feet were fueled in former times, so they could barely walk as adult women because of the deformation of the feet.

Sexual Arguments

  • "Circumcised men can cum later."
    In fact, many circumcised men have to work much longer for ejaculation, especially with age, because due to the lack of foreskin their glans is increasingly callous and unfeeling.

Moral Arguments

  • "I want to keep my boy from masturbating."
    Masturbation is something completely natural and part of the right to sexual self-determination. The excessive fight against the natural masturbation was the main motivation for the american doctor and rassist John Harvey Kellogg to propagate circumcision all over the United States of America.

See also

Ironic confrontation

References