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'''{{FULLPAGENAME}}''' by many men, since the time of the ancient Greeks,<ref name="hodges2001">{{REFjournal | |||
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|title=The Ideal Prepuce in Ancient Greece and Rome: Male Genital Aesthetics and Their Relation to Lipodermos, Circumcision, Foreskin Restoration, and the Kynodesme | |title=The Ideal Prepuce in Ancient Greece and Rome: Male Genital Aesthetics and Their Relation to Lipodermos, Circumcision, Foreskin Restoration, and the Kynodesme | ||
|journal=Bulletin History Med | |journal=Bulletin History Med | ||
|date=2001 | |date=2001 | ||
|season=Fall | |season=Fall | ||
|volume=75 | |volume=75 | ||
|pages=375-401 | |pages=375-401 | ||
|url=https://www.cirp.org/library/history/hodges2/ | |url=https://www.cirp.org/library/history/hodges2/ | ||
|pubmedID=11568485 | |pubmedID=11568485 | ||
|DOI=10.1353/bhm.2001.0119 | |DOI=10.1353/bhm.2001.0119 | ||
|accessdate=2025-07-10 | |accessdate=2025-07-10 | ||
}}</ref> | }}</ref> to the present. | ||
==Ancient times== | ==Ancient times== | ||
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}}</ref> | }}</ref> The Hebrews learned about circumcision durng their stay in Egypt.<ref name="offord1913">{{REFjournal | ||
The Hebrews learned about circumcision durng their stay in Egypt.<ref name="offord1913">{{REFjournal | |||
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}}</ref> Removing it was considered [[mutilation]]. Men with a short [[foreskin]], a condition known as '' | }}</ref> Removing it was considered [[mutilation]]. Men with a short [[foreskin]], a condition known as ''[[lipodermos]]'', would wear a leather cord called a ''[[kynodesme]]'' to prevent its accidental exposure.<ref name="hodges2001" /><ref>{{REFweb | ||
|url=https://acroposthion.com/foreskin-restoration-2/ | |url=https://acroposthion.com/foreskin-restoration-2/ | ||
|title=Foreskin restoration | |title=Foreskin restoration | ||
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===Jewish response to epispasm=== | ===Jewish response to epispasm=== | ||
Rabbis of the second century responded to the practice of epispasm to increase the injury by mandating ''[[Periah| peri’ah]]'' to change Jewish circumcision, or the complete ablation of the [[foreskin]] in order to prevent Jewish men from engaging in [[foreskin restoration]].<ref name="glick2005" /> | Rabbis of the second century responded to the practice of epispasm to increase the injury by mandating ''[[Periah| peri’ah]]'' to change Jewish circumcision, or the complete ablation of the [[foreskin]] in order to prevent Jewish men from engaging in [[foreskin restoration]].<ref name="glick2005"/> It is clear that the [[circumcised]] Jewish men of antiquity needed a long, full-length [[foreskin]] to function in Greek society. It is not clear what other advantages they may have found. | ||
It is clear that the [[circumcised]] Jewish men of antiquity needed a long, full-length [[foreskin]] to function in Greek society. It is not clear what other advantages they may have found. | |||
==Modern times== | ==Modern times== | ||
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|title=Nationwide Circumcision Trends: 2003 to 2016 | |title=Nationwide Circumcision Trends: 2003 to 2016 | ||
|journal=J Urol | |journal=J Urol | ||
|date=2021-01 | |date=2021-01 | ||
|volume=205 | |volume=205 | ||
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|DOI=10.1097/JU.0000000000001316 | |DOI=10.1097/JU.0000000000001316 | ||
|accessdate=2025-06-12 | |accessdate=2025-06-12 | ||
}}</ref> <ref name="yang2025">{{REFjournal | |||
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}}</ref> and the incidence of [[foreskin restoration]] increasing,<ref>{{REFweb | }}</ref> and the incidence of [[foreskin restoration]] increasing,<ref>{{REFweb | ||
|url=https://norm.org/ | |url=https://norm.org/ | ||
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* How long should the foreskin be to provide the optimum erogenous sensation? | * How long should the foreskin be to provide the optimum erogenous sensation? | ||
These questions are now relevant, since [[BUFF]] rediscovered [[tissue expansion]] as used by the ancients | These questions are now relevant, since [[BUFF]] rediscovered [[tissue expansion]] as used by the ancients. Application of traction with the aid of a device or manually now enables [[foreskinned]] men to increase the length of their natural [[foreskin]], if desired, and enables [[circumcised]] men to create a [[foreskin]], which previously had been impossible. | ||
There is a wide range of naturally occurring foreskin-length from almost non-existent to very long with a significant [[acroposthion]]. Many [[foreskinned]] and restoring men express an appreciation for a [[foreskin]] that is near the maximum normal length.<ref>{{REFweb | There is a wide range of naturally occurring foreskin-length from almost non-existent to very long with a significant [[acroposthion]]. Foreskin length appears to be distributed in accordance with Gaussian distribution, with a graph that would take the shape of a bell curve.<ref>{{URLwikipedia|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution|Normal distribution|2025-10-30||en}}</ref> Many [[foreskinned]] and restoring men express an appreciation for a [[foreskin]] that is near or beyond the maximum normal length.<ref>{{REFweb | ||
|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/foreskin_restoration/comments/kax2c6/can_i_make_my_foreskin_longer_even_if_am/ | |url=https://www.reddit.com/r/foreskin_restoration/comments/kax2c6/can_i_make_my_foreskin_longer_even_if_am/ | ||
|title=Can I make my foreskin longer even if am uncircumcised | |title=Can I make my foreskin longer even if am uncircumcised | ||
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|accessdate=2025-06-15 | |accessdate=2025-06-15 | ||
}}</ref><ref>{{REFweb | |||
|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/uncircumcised_talk/comments/1kx5iv2/men_with_long_foreskin/?sort=old | |||
|title=Men with long foreskin | |||
|last=Anonymous | |||
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|publisher=REDDIT | |||
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}}</ref><ref>{{REFweb | |||
|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/uncircumcised_talk/comments/1lf494m/anyone_else_here_have_overhang_too_whats_your/ | |||
|title=Anyone else here have overhang too ? What’s your opinion on it ? | |||
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}}</ref> | |||
==Characteristics of longer foreskins== | |||
As with shorter foreskins, the [[ridged band]] is located just inside the tip of the [[foreskin]]. | |||
Longer foreskins are much less likely to spontaneously retract. The longest foreskins, if manually retracted, are likely to glide forward to recover and protect the [[glans penis]] when released. | |||
O'Farrell et al. (2008) reported a longer [[foreskin]] improves wetness in the [[preputial sac]].<ref name="ofarrell2008">{{REFjournal | |||
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|title=Foreskin length in uncircumcised men is associated with subpreputial wetness | |||
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|journal= Int J STD AIDS. | |||
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}}</ref> Fleiss, Hodges & Van Howe (1998) reported the presence of cathepsin B, lysosyme, chymotrypsin, neutrophil elastase, and cytokine in the sub-preputial moisture.<ref name="fleiss1998">{{FleissP HodgesF VanHoweRS 1998}}</ref> These substances have a destructive lytic effect on pathogens and make the [[preputial sac]] a trap for disease-causing organisms. | |||
Men with the longest foreskins are able to glide the [[foreskin]] without exposing the [[glans penis]].<ref>* {{REFweb | |||
|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/uncircumcised_talk/comments/1n9vc90/jo/ | |||
|title=How to masturbate with a long foreskin | |||
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}}</ref> | }}</ref> | ||
The following is a guide to foreskin length that was provided by Advanced Devices, Inc., a manufacturer of restoration devices. It is {{NSFW}} because it contains drawings (not photographs) of foreskins of various lengths. Please exercise discretion in viewing it. | |||
The following external link is {{NSFW}}. | |||
* {{REFweb | |||
|url=https://foreskinrestoration.men/foreskin-restoration-coverage-index/ | |||
|title=ADI’s Foreskin Restoration Coverage Index | |||
|last=Anonymous | |||
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|publisher=Advanced Devices, Inc. | |||
|date=2010 | |||
|accessdate=2025-06-16 | |||
}} | |||
The late [[intactivist]], [[John A. Erickson]], famously said, "One can't be too rich, too thin, or have too much foreskin." | |||
The percentage of [[foreskinned]] men in American society is gradually but continually increasing.<ref>{{REFnews | |||
|title=Less Than Half of U.S. Boys Now Circumcised | |||
|url=https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/less-than-half-of-us-boys-now-circumcised/ar-AA1MBjzN | |||
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|accessdate=2025-09-24 | |||
|quote=Neonatal male circumcision in the U.S. has fallen over the past decade and now sits below 50%, a cross-sectional study indicated. | |||
}}</ref> As time goes on, more and more American men with a longer [[foreskin]] will come to understand, appreciate, and enjoy the pleasure from the [https://acroposthion.com/the-tip-at-the-end/ tip at the end]. | |||
An unusually long foreskin may be given the term [[Acroposthion#Macroposthia| macroposthia]]. | |||
==Lengthening the foreskin== | |||
The [[foreskin]] is responsive to [[tissue expansion]] techniques, as mentioned above, so [[intact]] men who desire a longer foreskin may gradually lengthen their [[foreskin]]. The process involves the use of [[stretching]] to induce [[mitosis]], which gradually increases the quantity of foreskin. The process is slow, but once it is done, it will last the rest of one's life. | |||
The techniques that [[circumcised]] men use to restore their missing [[foreskin]] also work for [[intact]] men to lengthen their existing foreskin. | |||
{{SEEALSO}} | {{SEEALSO}} | ||
* [[Acroposthion]] | * [[Acroposthion]] | ||
* [[Epispasm]] | |||
* [[Foreskin]] | * [[Foreskin]] | ||
* [[ | * [[Foreskin comment]] | ||
* [[Gliding action]] | |||
* [[Living with a foreskin in circumcised America]] | |||
* [[Long foreskins]] | |||
* [[Preputial sac]] | |||
* [[Tissue expansion]] | * [[Tissue expansion]] | ||
* [[Urination by foreskinned men]] | |||
{{LINKS}} | |||
'''WARNING:''' The first listed external link is to the search engine at REDDIT. It searches all of REDDIT for "long foreskin". It produces a very large number of hits as there seems to be lot of interest. Some files are {{NSFW}}. Caution is advised. | |||
* {{REFweb | |||
|url=https://www.reddit.com/search/?q=long%20foreskin&cId=27653d66-aeef-44a6-a32c-5f09a19ccab0&iId=5ecc1335-ae5f-43a2-856e-c34054e0aa24 | |||
|title=Search results for "long foreskin" | |||
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* {{REFweb | |||
|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/2vr5l2/sex_with_long_foreskin/ | |||
|title=Sex with long foreskin | |||
|last=Anonymous | |||
|publisher=REDDIT | |||
|date=2013 | |||
|accessdate=2025-09-20 | |||
}} | |||
* {{REFweb | |||
|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/uncircumcised_talk/comments/1jpj0k6/foreskin_overhang/ | |||
|title=Foreskin overhang | |||
|last=Anonymous | |||
|publisher=REDDIT | |||
|date=2025-03 | |||
|accessdate=2025-11-09 | |||
}} | |||
* {{REFweb | |||
|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/uncircumcised_talk/comments/1kx5iv2/men_with_long_foreskin/?sort=old | |||
|title=Men with long foreskin | |||
|last=Anonymous | |||
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* {{REFweb | |||
|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/uncircumcised_talk/comments/1m3l9ee/does_anyone_wish_they_had_even_more_foreskin/ | |||
|title=Does anyone wish they had even more foreskin? | |||
|last=Anonymous | |||
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|date=2025-07-18 | |||
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}} | |||
* {{REFweb | |||
|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/uncircumcised_talk/comments/1md1m76/how_to_make_longer/ | |||
|title=How to make longer! | |||
|last=Anonymous | |||
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|publisher=REDDIT | |||
|date=2025-07-29 | |||
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}} | |||
* {{REFweb | |||
|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/uncircumcised_talk/comments/1o4xmmq/what_do_you_do_with_your_foreskin_when_your_penis/ | |||
|title=What do you do with your foreskin when your penis is soft? | |||
|last=Anonymous | |||
|publisher=REDDIT | |||
|date=2025-10-12 | |||
|accessdate=2025-10-18 | |||
}} | |||
* {{REFweb | |||
|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/uncircumcised_talk/comments/1o5zc5c/comment/njdfrg3/ | |||
|title=Are there any benefits in having a long foreskin compared to having a shorter foreskin? | |||
|last=Anonymous | |||
|publisher=REDDIT | |||
|date=2025-10-13 | |||
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}} | |||
* {{REFweb | |||
|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/uncircumcised_talk/comments/1ow2f54/comment/nomy4ra/ | |||
|title=Tug together | |||
|last=Anonymous | |||
|publisher=REDDIT | |||
|date=2025-11-12 | |||
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}} | |||
* {{REFweb | |||
|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/uncircumcised_talk/comments/1pztjcr/longer_foreskin/ | |||
|title=Longer foreskin | |||
|last=Anonymous | |||
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|date=2025-12-30 | |||
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* {{REFweb | |||
|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/intactinfo/comments/1qkbj2h/a_long_foreskin_is_normal_information_and/ | |||
|title=A Long Foreskin is Normal: Information and Reassurance | |||
|last=Anonymous | |||
|publisher=REDDIT | |||
|date=2026-01-22 | |||
|accessdate=2026-01-24 | |||
}} | |||
{{REF}} | {{REF}} | ||
[[Category:Culture]] | |||
[[Category:Foreskin anatomy]] | |||
[[Category:Foreskinned life]] | |||
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