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− | '''Ulf Dunkel''' ({{LifeData |birth=1962-08-27 |birthplace=Löningen |birthcountry=Germany}}) is a German salesman, politician, author, composer and [[intactivist]] who engages since Summer 2012 to outlaw the medically not indicated circumcision of boys. He is father of five children and Greens politician. | + | '''Ulf Dunkel''' (pronounced ˈʊlf ˈdʊnkəl, {{LifeData |birth=1962-08-27 |birthplace=Löningen |birthcountry=Germany}}) is a German salesman, politician, author, composer and [[intactivist]] who engages since Summer 2012 to outlaw the medically not indicated circumcision of boys. He is father of five children and [[Greens]] politician. |
In several Open Letters to all members of the Bundestag and with a 'Poem on the Abolition of Human Rights for Children in Germany', he tried to provide the Bundestag with information and to motivate them to disagree with the [[German Circumcision Act|legalization of not medically indicated circumcision of boys]] which German Chancellor Merkel had already required in Summer 2012. | In several Open Letters to all members of the Bundestag and with a 'Poem on the Abolition of Human Rights for Children in Germany', he tried to provide the Bundestag with information and to motivate them to disagree with the [[German Circumcision Act|legalization of not medically indicated circumcision of boys]] which German Chancellor Merkel had already required in Summer 2012. | ||
== Alternative law draft amendment to § 1631 BGB == | == Alternative law draft amendment to § 1631 BGB == | ||
− | In October 2012 after a longer discussion with [[Volker Beck]], Dunkel wrote an [[Alternative law draft amendment to § 1631 BGB]]. He presented this draft on the 34th Federal Delegates Conference of his Party, the German Greens, in November 2012 in Hannover (Germany). Together with all other requests of others on the topic [[circumcision]], his draft suggestion was moved from the Conference to a so-called "Religion-political Commission". This commission didn't discuss the draft requests to date. | + | In October 2012 after a longer discussion with [[Volker Beck]], Dunkel wrote an [[Alternative law draft amendment to § 1631 BGB]]. He presented this draft on the 34th Federal Delegates Conference of his Party, the German [[Greens]], in November 2012 in Hannover (Germany). Together with all other requests of others on the topic [[circumcision]], his draft suggestion was moved from the Conference to a so-called "Religion-political Commission". This commission didn't discuss the draft requests to date. |
== Shitstorm == | == Shitstorm == | ||
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== Party exclusion procedure discontinued == | == Party exclusion procedure discontinued == | ||
− | The Greens Executive Committee of Lower Saxony had requested Dunkel's exclusion of the party. In late February, 2014, Dunkel and his Executive Committee made a comparison, which waived the reproach of being anti-semitic and xenophobic. Dunkel confirmed that his statements in the [[Circumcision Debate]] in 2012 had served anti-semitic steretypes unintendedly. He again dissociated himself strictly from [[Anti-Semitism|anti-semitism]] and xenophobia. The regional party arbitral tribunal warned him because of these expressions. The proceeding was discontinued; revision was not allowed.<ref>https://ulfdunkel.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/pressemitteilung-zum-pav/</ref> | + | The [[Greens]] Executive Committee of Lower Saxony had requested Dunkel's exclusion of the party. In late February, 2014, Dunkel and his Executive Committee made a comparison, which waived the reproach of being anti-semitic and xenophobic. Dunkel confirmed that his statements in the [[Circumcision Debate]] in 2012 had served anti-semitic steretypes unintendedly. He again dissociated himself strictly from [[Anti-Semitism|anti-semitism]] and xenophobia. The regional party arbitral tribunal warned him because of these expressions. The proceeding was discontinued; revision was not allowed.<ref>https://ulfdunkel.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/pressemitteilung-zum-pav/</ref> |
== Collective Cognitive Dissonance == | == Collective Cognitive Dissonance == | ||
In the [[Circumcision Debate]] 2012, Ulf Dunkel created the concept of [[Collective Cognitive Dissonance]] which describes the issue of cognitive dissonance for a group of persons, even existing over generations. The [[Circumpendium]] informs about this psychological phenomenon as follows: | In the [[Circumcision Debate]] 2012, Ulf Dunkel created the concept of [[Collective Cognitive Dissonance]] which describes the issue of cognitive dissonance for a group of persons, even existing over generations. The [[Circumpendium]] informs about this psychological phenomenon as follows: | ||
<blockquote> | <blockquote> | ||
− | It can frequently be found that the loss is denied, much as happens with the loss of other body parts. This denial can lead to fathers having their sons circumcised in order not to be reminded of their own loss. In this process, their own body is defined as "normal" and the [[foreskin]] redefined as a foreign object. Their own parents are seen as "good", so that this image is projected onto the circumcision their parents carried out as well, in order to keep the positive emotion intact. The father wants to be a "good" father later in life as well, and so, following an idealised image of his own parents, circumcision, which has been redefined as a "good thing", is passed on to his son by having him circumcised as well.<ref> | + | It can frequently be found that the loss is denied, much as happens with the loss of other body parts. This denial can lead to fathers having their sons circumcised in order not to be reminded of their own loss. In this process, their own body is defined as "normal" and the [[foreskin]] redefined as a foreign object. Their own parents are seen as "good", so that this image is projected onto the circumcision their parents carried out as well, in order to keep the positive emotion intact. The father wants to be a "good" father later in life as well, and so, following an idealised image of his own parents, circumcision, which has been redefined as a "good thing", is passed on to his son by having him circumcised as well.<ref>{{VanderKolkBA 1989}}</ref><ref>{{REFjournal |
+ | |last=Goldman | ||
+ | |init=R | ||
+ | |author-link=Ronald Goldman | ||
+ | |url=http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/goldman1/ | ||
+ | |title=The psychological impact of circumcision | ||
+ | |journal=BJU Int | ||
+ | |date=1999 | ||
+ | |volume=83 | ||
+ | |issue=Suppl. 1 | ||
+ | |pages=93-103 | ||
+ | }}</ref> | ||
</blockquote> | </blockquote> | ||
== Political engagement == | == Political engagement == | ||
− | Since 1998, Ulf Dunkel is member of the German GREENS party (with a break of five years), was member of the District Association of Cloppenburg, elected member of local parliaments like the city council, and candidate for the German Bundestag and Landtag of Lower Saxony. From July 2015 to March 2018, he was the organizational manager of the GREENS District Association of Cloppenburg<ref>http://gruene-cloppenburg.de/geschaeftsfuehrung/</ref> | + | Since 1998, Ulf Dunkel is member of the German [[GREENS]] party (with a break of five years), was member of the District Association of Cloppenburg, elected member of local parliaments like the city council, and candidate for the German Bundestag and Landtag of Lower Saxony. From July 2015 to March 2018, he was the organizational manager of the [[GREENS]] District Association of Cloppenburg<ref>{{REFweb |
+ | |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20160608073954/http://www.gruene-cloppenburg.de/geschaeftsfuehrung/ | ||
+ | |url=https://gruene-cloppenburg.de/geschaeftsfuehrung/ | ||
+ | |archived=no | ||
+ | |title=GRÜNE KV Cloppenburg: Geschäftsführung des Kreisverbands | ||
+ | |trans-title=GREENS Cloppenburg: Management of the district association | ||
+ | |language=German | ||
+ | |accessdate=2021-10-30 | ||
+ | }}</ref> | ||
He still engages in his party for the integrity of all children, including as a member of the [[Bundesweiter Arbeitskreis Säkulare Grüne|BAK Säkulare Grüne]], through educational work and sharp criticism of the proponents of the [[German Circumcision Act]] in his political party. | He still engages in his party for the integrity of all children, including as a member of the [[Bundesweiter Arbeitskreis Säkulare Grüne|BAK Säkulare Grüne]], through educational work and sharp criticism of the proponents of the [[German Circumcision Act]] in his political party. | ||
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|accessdate=2021-06-07 | |accessdate=2021-06-07 | ||
− | }}</ref> He did not win a mandate but | + | }}</ref> He did not win a mandate, but has been a member of the district council again as the first successor since July 2022 and parliamentary group leader since December 2022. |
{{PUB}} | {{PUB}} | ||
− | * "[[Beschneidung: Das schmerzhafte Dilemma]]", German translation of the 2nd edition of the standard work by the late [[Rosemary Romberg]], 2021. | + | * "[[Komikernation Deutschland]]: Die Beschneidungsdebatte 2012 in Deutschland und die weltweiten Folgen" (''"Comedian Nation Germany: The 2012 circumcision debate in Germany and the global consequences"''), 2023. |
+ | * "Beschneidung ist Betrug: Und die bevorstehende rechtliche Abrechnung", German translation of the English book "[[Circumcision Is A Fraud: And The Coming Legal Reckoning]]" by [[Peter W. Adler]], 2022. | ||
+ | * "[[de_intactiwiki:Beschneidung: Das schmerzhafte Dilemma|Beschneidung: Das schmerzhafte Dilemma]]", German translation of the 2nd edition of the standard work by the late [[Rosemary Romberg]], 2021. | ||
* "[[Circumcision: The Painful Dilemma]]", 2nd edition of the standard work by the late [[Rosemary Romberg]], 2021. | * "[[Circumcision: The Painful Dilemma]]", 2nd edition of the standard work by the late [[Rosemary Romberg]], 2021. | ||
* "Beschneidung infragestellen: Eine jüdische Perspektive", German translation of the English book "[[Questioning Circumcision: A Jewish Perspective]]"<ref>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0964489562/</ref> by [[Ronald Goldman]], 2019. | * "Beschneidung infragestellen: Eine jüdische Perspektive", German translation of the English book "[[Questioning Circumcision: A Jewish Perspective]]"<ref>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0964489562/</ref> by [[Ronald Goldman]], 2019. | ||
* "Beschneidung - das verborgene Trauma", German translation of the English book "[[Circumcision: The Hidden Trauma]]"<ref>https://www.amazon.com/Circumcision-Hidden-Trauma-American-Ultimately/dp/0964489538/</ref> by [[Ronald Goldman]], 2019. | * "Beschneidung - das verborgene Trauma", German translation of the English book "[[Circumcision: The Hidden Trauma]]"<ref>https://www.amazon.com/Circumcision-Hidden-Trauma-American-Ultimately/dp/0964489538/</ref> by [[Ronald Goldman]], 2019. | ||
* [https://www.amazon.de/Unaussprechliche-Verstümmelungen-Beschnittene-sprechen-darüber/dp/1516854705/ "Unaussprechliche Verstümmelungen"], German translation of the English book "[[Unspeakable Mutilations]]" by [[Lindsay R. Watson]], 2015. | * [https://www.amazon.de/Unaussprechliche-Verstümmelungen-Beschnittene-sprechen-darüber/dp/1516854705/ "Unaussprechliche Verstümmelungen"], German translation of the English book "[[Unspeakable Mutilations]]" by [[Lindsay R. Watson]], 2015. | ||
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* "Beschneidung: Mythen und Fakten" (''"Circumcision: Myths and Facts"'', unreleased yet) | * "Beschneidung: Mythen und Fakten" (''"Circumcision: Myths and Facts"'', unreleased yet) | ||
== Other publications about intactivism == | == Other publications about intactivism == | ||
+ | * {{REFweb | ||
+ | |url=https://ulfdunkel.wordpress.com/2022/11/14/10-years-of-circumcision-debate-in-germany/ | ||
+ | |title=10 years of circumcision debate in Germany | ||
+ | |last=Dunkel | ||
+ | |first=Ulf | ||
+ | |author-link=Ulf Dunkel | ||
+ | |publisher=[[Intact America]] | ||
+ | |date=2022-07-28 | ||
+ | |accessdate=2022-11-15 | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | * {{REFweb | ||
+ | |url=https://ulfdunkel.wordpress.com/2022/05/18/intactivism-is-not-about-jews-but-about-childrens-rights/ | ||
+ | |title=Intactivism is not about Jews, but about children’s rights | ||
+ | |last=Dunkel | ||
+ | |first=Ulf | ||
+ | |author-link=Ulf Dunkel | ||
+ | |date=2022-05-18 | ||
+ | |accessdate=2022-05-18 | ||
+ | }} | ||
* {{REFweb | * {{REFweb | ||
|url=https://ulfdunkel.wordpress.com/2021/07/18/unicef-bitte-keine-doppelmoral-mehr/ | |url=https://ulfdunkel.wordpress.com/2021/07/18/unicef-bitte-keine-doppelmoral-mehr/ | ||
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|url=http://ulfdunkel.wordpress.com/2015/08/18/unaussprechliche-verstuemmelungen/ | |url=http://ulfdunkel.wordpress.com/2015/08/18/unaussprechliche-verstuemmelungen/ | ||
|title=Unaussprechliche Verstümmelungen | |title=Unaussprechliche Verstümmelungen | ||
− | |trans-title= | + | |trans-title=[Unspeakable Mutilations] |
|language=German | |language=German | ||
|last=Dunkel | |last=Dunkel | ||
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|url=http://ulfdunkel.wordpress.com/2012/10/30/beschneidungsdebatte-alternativer-gesetzesanderung-entwurf-%C2%A7-1631-bgb/ | |url=http://ulfdunkel.wordpress.com/2012/10/30/beschneidungsdebatte-alternativer-gesetzesanderung-entwurf-%C2%A7-1631-bgb/ | ||
|title=Alternativer Gesetzesänderung-Entwurf § 1631 BGB | |title=Alternativer Gesetzesänderung-Entwurf § 1631 BGB | ||
− | |trans-title=Alternative law draft amendment to § 1631 BGB | + | |trans-title=Alternative law draft amendment to § 1631 BGB |
|language=German | |language=German | ||
|last=Dunkel | |last=Dunkel | ||
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|accessdate=2020-05-02 | |accessdate=2020-05-02 | ||
− | }} proposed law enhancement for the 31st Federal Delegate Conference of the German Greens at the end of 2012 ([[Alternative law draft amendment to § 1631 BGB|English text here]]) | + | }} proposed law enhancement for the 31st Federal Delegate Conference of the German [[Greens]] at the end of 2012 ([[Alternative law draft amendment to § 1631 BGB|English text here]]) |
* {{REFweb | * {{REFweb | ||
− | |url=http://www.mogis.info/blog/2012/08/27/gastartikel-mein-kommentar-an-den-deutschen-ethikrat-wegen-seiner-empfehlung-an-die-bundesregierung/ | + | |original-url=http://www.mogis.info/blog/2012/08/27/gastartikel-mein-kommentar-an-den-deutschen-ethikrat-wegen-seiner-empfehlung-an-die-bundesregierung/ |
+ | |url=https://ulfdunkel.wordpress.com/2022/03/30/gastartikel-mein-kommentar-an-den-deutschen-ethikrat-wegen-seiner-empfehlung-an-die-bundesregierung/ | ||
|title=Gastartikel: Mein Kommentar an den Deutschen Ethikrat wg. seiner Empfehlung an die Bundesregierung | |title=Gastartikel: Mein Kommentar an den Deutschen Ethikrat wg. seiner Empfehlung an die Bundesregierung | ||
− | |trans-title= | + | |trans-title=Guest article: My comment to the German Ethics Council on their recommendation to the German Federal Government |
|language=German | |language=German | ||
|last=Dunkel | |last=Dunkel | ||
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[[Category:Intactivist]] | [[Category:Intactivist]] | ||
[[Category:Politician]] | [[Category:Politician]] | ||
+ | [[Category:GREENS]] | ||
[[Category:Germany]] | [[Category:Germany]] | ||
[[de:Ulf Dunkel]] | [[de:Ulf Dunkel]] |
Latest revision as of 15:12, 7 December 2023
Ulf Dunkel (pronounced ˈʊlf ˈdʊnkəl, born 27 August 1962 in Löningen, Germany) is a German salesman, politician, author, composer and intactivist who engages since Summer 2012 to outlaw the medically not indicated circumcision of boys. He is father of five children and Greens politician.
In several Open Letters to all members of the Bundestag and with a 'Poem on the Abolition of Human Rights for Children in Germany', he tried to provide the Bundestag with information and to motivate them to disagree with the legalization of not medically indicated circumcision of boys which German Chancellor Merkel had already required in Summer 2012.
Contents
Alternative law draft amendment to § 1631 BGB
In October 2012 after a longer discussion with Volker Beck, Dunkel wrote an Alternative law draft amendment to § 1631 BGB. He presented this draft on the 34th Federal Delegates Conference of his Party, the German Greens, in November 2012 in Hannover (Germany). Together with all other requests of others on the topic circumcision, his draft suggestion was moved from the Conference to a so-called "Religion-political Commission". This commission didn't discuss the draft requests to date.
Shitstorm
His critical statements about the legitimation of German Circumcision Act § 1631d BGB in many discussions, his burst of rage[1] which he posted on Facebook after having watched the circumcision documentation film It´s A Boy!, and his poem ("Gedicht zur Abschaffung der Menschenrechte in Deutschland" - "Poem On the Abolition of Human Rights in Germany") caused a media shitstorm with anti-Semitism accusations, a death threat and other threatening phone calls for Dunkel and his family. To take the pressure from his family, Dunkel declined on a possible seat in parliament, but this waiver was formally no longer possible and therefore invalid. Dunkel therefore still was technically a possible substitute for the parliament of Lower Saxony in the 17th legislative term (2013-2017).
Party exclusion procedure discontinued
The Greens Executive Committee of Lower Saxony had requested Dunkel's exclusion of the party. In late February, 2014, Dunkel and his Executive Committee made a comparison, which waived the reproach of being anti-semitic and xenophobic. Dunkel confirmed that his statements in the Circumcision Debate in 2012 had served anti-semitic steretypes unintendedly. He again dissociated himself strictly from anti-semitism and xenophobia. The regional party arbitral tribunal warned him because of these expressions. The proceeding was discontinued; revision was not allowed.[2]
Collective Cognitive Dissonance
In the Circumcision Debate 2012, Ulf Dunkel created the concept of Collective Cognitive Dissonance which describes the issue of cognitive dissonance for a group of persons, even existing over generations. The Circumpendium informs about this psychological phenomenon as follows:
It can frequently be found that the loss is denied, much as happens with the loss of other body parts. This denial can lead to fathers having their sons circumcised in order not to be reminded of their own loss. In this process, their own body is defined as "normal" and the foreskin redefined as a foreign object. Their own parents are seen as "good", so that this image is projected onto the circumcision their parents carried out as well, in order to keep the positive emotion intact. The father wants to be a "good" father later in life as well, and so, following an idealised image of his own parents, circumcision, which has been redefined as a "good thing", is passed on to his son by having him circumcised as well.[3][4]
Political engagement
Since 1998, Ulf Dunkel is member of the German GREENS party (with a break of five years), was member of the District Association of Cloppenburg, elected member of local parliaments like the city council, and candidate for the German Bundestag and Landtag of Lower Saxony. From July 2015 to March 2018, he was the organizational manager of the GREENS District Association of Cloppenburg[5]
He still engages in his party for the integrity of all children, including as a member of the BAK Säkulare Grüne, through educational work and sharp criticism of the proponents of the German Circumcision Act in his political party.
In 2021, Dunkel ran as a GREEN candidate for the local city council and district council.[6] He did not win a mandate, but has been a member of the district council again as the first successor since July 2022 and parliamentary group leader since December 2022.
Publications
- "Komikernation Deutschland: Die Beschneidungsdebatte 2012 in Deutschland und die weltweiten Folgen" ("Comedian Nation Germany: The 2012 circumcision debate in Germany and the global consequences"), 2023.
- "Beschneidung ist Betrug: Und die bevorstehende rechtliche Abrechnung", German translation of the English book "Circumcision Is A Fraud: And The Coming Legal Reckoning" by Peter W. Adler, 2022.
- "Beschneidung: Das schmerzhafte Dilemma", German translation of the 2nd edition of the standard work by the late Rosemary Romberg, 2021.
- "Circumcision: The Painful Dilemma", 2nd edition of the standard work by the late Rosemary Romberg, 2021.
- "Beschneidung infragestellen: Eine jüdische Perspektive", German translation of the English book "Questioning Circumcision: A Jewish Perspective"[7] by Ronald Goldman, 2019.
- "Beschneidung - das verborgene Trauma", German translation of the English book "Circumcision: The Hidden Trauma"[8] by Ronald Goldman, 2019.
- "Unaussprechliche Verstümmelungen", German translation of the English book "Unspeakable Mutilations" by Lindsay R. Watson, 2015.
- "Beschneidung: Mythen und Fakten" ("Circumcision: Myths and Facts", unreleased yet)
Other publications about intactivism
- Dunkel, Ulf (28 July 2022).
10 years of circumcision debate in Germany
, Intact America. Retrieved 15 November 2022. - Dunkel, Ulf (18 May 2022).
Intactivism is not about Jews, but about children’s rights
. Retrieved 18 May 2022. - Dunkel, Ulf (18 July 2021).
UNICEF, bitte keine Doppelmoral mehr
[UNICEF, please no more double standards] (German). Retrieved 19 July 2021. - Dunkel, Ulf (20 March 2016)."Fangt endlich an, vom Kind her zu denken" [At last, start thinking from the child's point of view] (German), Der Freitag. Retrieved 2 May 2020.
- Dunkel, Ulf (12 December 2015).
Noch mehr Doppelmoral
[Even more double standards] (German). Retrieved 2 May 2020. - Dunkel, Ulf (24 November 2015).
Grüne Doppelmoral
[Green Double Standards] (German). Retrieved 2 May 2020. - see also: Double standard - Dunkel, Ulf (18 August 2015).
Unaussprechliche Verstümmelungen
Unspeakable Mutilations (German). Retrieved 2 May 2020. - Dunkel, Ulf (15 May 2015)."Pressemeldung zur Veröffentlichung von Celebrating Brit Shalom: Brit Shalom statt Beschneidung" [Press release for Celebrating Brit Shalom release: Brit Shalom instead of circumcision] (German), Humanistischer Pressedienst. Retrieved 2 May 2020.
- Dunkel, Ulf (25 July 2014).
FGM folgt MGM
[FGM follows MGM] (German). Retrieved 2 May 2020. - Dunkel, Ulf (30 October 2012).
Alternativer Gesetzesänderung-Entwurf § 1631 BGB
[Alternative law draft amendment to § 1631 BGB] (German). Retrieved 2 May 2020. proposed law enhancement for the 31st Federal Delegate Conference of the German Greens at the end of 2012 (English text here) - Dunkel, Ulf (27 August 2012).
Gastartikel: Mein Kommentar an den Deutschen Ethikrat wg. seiner Empfehlung an die Bundesregierung
[Guest article: My comment to the German Ethics Council on their recommendation to the German Federal Government] (German), MOGiS e.V.. Retrieved 2 May 2020.
External links
- Greens Party Convent #34, Nov. 2012: Introducing V48 by Ulf Dunkel and others, speaker: Ulf Dunkel
- Greens Party Convent #34, Nov. 2012: Reply to V24 by Sergey Lagodinsky, speaker: Ulf Dunkel
References
- ↑ Circulated by a denouncer as a poem in the media, this textual outburst of anger has been claimed time and again since then as an alleged second poem by Ulf Dunkel on the subject of genital mutilation. In the outburst of anger, Dunkel accused all parents around the world who genitally mutilated their children of being a**holes and fanatics.
- ↑ https://ulfdunkel.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/pressemitteilung-zum-pav/
- ↑ van der Kolk BA. The compulsion to repeat the trauma: re-enactment, revictimization, and masochism. Psychiatr Clin North Am. June 1989; 12(2): 389-411. PMID. Retrieved 10 November 2022.
- ↑ Goldman R. The psychological impact of circumcision. BJU Int. 1999; 83(Suppl. 1): 93-103.
- ↑
GRÜNE KV Cloppenburg: Geschäftsführung des Kreisverbands
[GREENS Cloppenburg: Management of the district association] (German). Retrieved 30 October 2021. - ↑ (June 2021).
Wir kandidieren: Ulf Dunkel
[We are running: Ulf Dunkel] (German), GRÜNE Cloppenburg. Retrieved 7 June 2021. - ↑ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0964489562/
- ↑ https://www.amazon.com/Circumcision-Hidden-Trauma-American-Ultimately/dp/0964489538/